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What they said, what they meant: Spring training edition


When baseball people talk, it is generally good practice to take it with a grain of salt. In early spring training, when every player arrives “in the best shape of my life” or when every player that struggled the year before “went back to their pitching (hitting) guru from high school (college, early minors) and figured it out”, it would be good practice to take everything with a grain silo of salt.

So for this spring training edition of WTSWTM, quotes of various Astro-related individuals from chron.com (spit!!) will be paired with the translation of what they really meant.

Jeff Luhnow discussing young Cuban Yoan Moncada signing elsewhere:

  • What he said. “We’ve scouted the players that are coming out of Cuba. I won’t say we scouted all of them. We picked the ones we want to scout, and we scout ‘em. But at this point, we have not ventured into that territory of blowing away our budget and suffering the consequences, despite the fact that the quality of players is pretty good, there’s no question. Players with proven track records in Cuba tend to do OK in the major leagues, but we’re going to continue to monitor the situation and carefully consider when and how we get into it.”
  • What he meant. “I was reminded of the last couple years of Ariel Ovando‘s career with the Astros and his .576 OPS in A-ball and his .469 OPS at AA-ball and I thought, no, we can spend money in better places than outbidding others for teen age foreign free agents.”

A.J. Hinch on Pat Neshek‘s tough to see delivery:

  • What he said. “It’s unique, he’s tough, man. The velocity, the ball hides, the repertoire, and it’s a lot of synchronized arms and legs going in a lot of directions. I asked (catcher Jason) Castro how hard he was to catch, he said, ‘You got to work to pick the ball up.’”
  • What he eventually meant. “After the fact one of my coaches told me that maybe I shouldn’t base my opinion on Castro’s ability to see thrown pitches….”

 

Brad Peacock on his first mound sesson after hip surgery.

  • What he said – “Awesome. Felt good. No pain. I kind of started getting up there a little bit, and they kind of backed me down. They told me ease it down a little bit. But I felt good, I felt great.”
  • What he meant – “First of all having hip surgery is a little embarrassing. I mean grandmothers have hip surgery. Second, after finally feeling like I was pitching well at the end of last season – I really, really want this job. If you think I am going to say anything but awesome and great after that session, you are confusing me with an honest idiot. Unless you find my leg laying on the ground detached from my hip – you are getting nothing but awesome quotes from me the rest of spring training.”

Hinch on Josh Fields sitting out with tightness in his hamstring after an impressive session:

  • What he said.  “Fields is going to throw probably tomorrow or the next day. Just a small little hamstring tightness. We certainly went on the side of caution. There’s no concern, he did all the other drills, he did bunt plays, he did PFPs.”
  • What he meant. “I’m hoping that by the time fans figure out that PFP means Pitcher Fielding Practice he will be back on the mound throwing.”

Tyler Heineman talking about top prospect Mark Appel’s improvement in compact delivery and control.

  • What he said –  “He’s trying to work on the four-seamer up, trying to get some swing-and-miss on the fastball up. He’s constantly trying to get his delivery, making sure that his delivery’s short with the runner on base. It gets everything going for him and misses are a lot smaller. He always had the arm, his stuff was good. His (pitches are) missing closer to where they’re (supposed to be) going. He’s been able to throw the four-seamer, two-seamer down in the zone.””
  • What he meant – “Man, I hope Mark puts in a good word for me when he is a stud in the majors.”

Jed Lowrie on what Spring Training means to him:

  • What he said . “It’s just really about getting in shape, taking ground balls, you know ’cause you train during the offseason, but until you get down to the field to take ground balls, there’s nothing else like that. So it’s really just about getting out there. Be on your feet, that’s a big thing too. It’s surprising how much standing around helps you get in shape for a baseball season.”
  • What he meant. “Gee at Spring Training you guys write down everything I say – like I mean it. Yes, I’m the loneliest guy in the world and can’t get anyone to hit me ground balls until I get to spring training. And you bought that ‘standing around to get in shape’ line. Ha Ha! Next I’ll tell you guys that sitting in the dugout watching the other guys hit is what gets me into tip-top shape.”

Hinch on calling meetings in the regular season vs. in Spring Training:

  • What he said – “If there’s ever a message that needs to be delivered, absolutely, but all in all, I’m not a huge ‘team meeting’ guy. Those are different types of meetings than what we ‘re doing down here in camp. There’s a lot of bodies in here, so we’ve got to walk ‘em through the daily schedule and sort of where some tweaks will be made here and there. That’s sort of a team-building every morning. As games get under way and are all over the place, we may not congregate every day as a group. (We’re) taking advantage of these early camps have a little get to know sessions, stuff like that.”
  • What he meant – “When I was the manager in Arizona – all the meetings were called by the players to complain about me.”

Hinch on deciding the closer spot:

  • What he said – “It’ll take a while. We get through games, get to mid- to latter part of the spring and I’ve told all of those guys, I’m going to communicate with them as decisions are starting to be formed. But you know when you have resume guys like Qualls and Gregerson and Neshek, I know Sipp closed some games out last year, Fields has done it in the past.”
  • What he meant – “Yes, I know that when you have 5 guys fighting for the closer spot you don’t necessarily have a closer. But on the plus side, I like these five a whole lot more than the top five (after Albers got hurt and Crain never showed) who were in the pen last season.”

Bonus question: Hinch on Evan Gattis and concerns about his right knee

  • What he said – “It’s a concern. You always want your players to be healthy. We’ll monitor it. We’re well aware of his history. He’s a big fellow. We’re going to have to monitor him a little bit, and when you wind him up and put him on the field, he goes 150 percent. We’ll monitor his volume a little bit. He’s got some special instruction from (outfield instructor Gary) Pettis while the pitch-catcher camps’ going on so he’ll get plenty of fundamental work.”
  • What you thought he meant …..
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Dan Peschong is a full time engineer and a long time Astros lover from the days of Joe Morgan to the days of Jose Altuve.

35 comments on “What they said, what they meant: Spring training edition

  1. Steven
    February 25, 2015

    What he meant – “I was promised Chris Carter would be gone. Now I have to get Gary Pettis to try and work with the slowest man alive not named Matt to play a passable LF and stay healthy doing it. Great start. Oh man Gary, please help him run straight.”

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    • Dan P
      February 25, 2015

      Nice one Steven – working Carter or Gattis in the OF will be an interesting task.

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      • Devin_
        February 25, 2015

        What if the brain trust decided that we could park JFSF in the left-center gap, Springer in the right-center gap, and have Gattis/Carter play the softball rover position? Heck, I think it would be worth it to see how fast Manfred’s head would spin around!

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    • Dan P
      February 25, 2015

      Sorry Devin – if they did that then oldpro would be wrong and Gattis could run over our second baseman (and LF and RF and SS….)

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      • Devin_
        February 25, 2015

        What if we put a bucket out there for him to sit on?

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      • Dan P
        February 25, 2015

        Well, Devin – then he would be covering as much ground as Chris Carter.

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  2. 1oldpro
    February 25, 2015

    What I think he meant: The position I see him playing the most is middle of the lineup. Jeff said for me to find places to put him that give the best chance for him to hit 40 home runs. Pitchers don’t bat, so he won’t be pitching. His nickname isn’t Framin’ Evan so he won’t be doing much catching. He won’t be playing second base and he won’t be running over our second baseman, either. Everything else is in play.

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    • Dan P
      February 25, 2015

      Old pro – cutting to the heart of the matter – “He ain’t here for his defense. He ain’t here for his base stealing. He ain’t here because he is a specialty catcher. He is here because he can hit the spit out of the ball.”

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  3. 1oldpro
    February 25, 2015

    What Singleton said: I chilled for a couple of months at home. Then I went to California for a month. Then I went to New Mexico for a few weeks.
    What Singleton meant to say: I chilled for a couple of months at home. Then I went to California for a month. Then I went to New Mexico for a few weeks.

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    • Dan P
      February 25, 2015

      Classic quote oldpro. Singleton is a simple guy….

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  4. 1oldpro
    February 25, 2015

    Dan, your made up Peacock quote was absolute genius. I’m jealous..

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    • Dan P
      February 25, 2015

      And that may be one of the few times you see Dan and genius in the same sentence…..Thanks

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  5. Tim
    February 25, 2015

    What he meant to say: We traded 3 of our top 30 prospects for a balky knee’d, defensive liability. I sure hope there is something in those computers that prove his bat will produce a 35/100 season.

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    • Dan P
      February 25, 2015

      Computers are great – I use them all day long in my job. Never saw one yet that could hit a dinger.

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  6. BrianT
    February 25, 2015

    What he meant, Gattis: “We’re going to tell Oso Blanco not to run full-out in left field. We’re a little worried about the impact of him running and the structural integrity of the Crawford Boxes. Pettis suggested some ballet to work on his flexibility and running, but we almost lost Brent Strom who laughed so hard he had trouble breathing. So slow movements seem best. That and a good arch support.”

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    • Dan P
      February 25, 2015

      I would gladly pay to watch Gattis do ballet moves in LF. Or knock down the Crawford Boxes

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  7. 1oldpro
    February 25, 2015

    If Gattis has 550 PAs at DH with the same rates he had last year expanded over a full season, I’d scream Alleluia to the top of the dome! If Chris Carter were to duplicate his hitting stats while playing 1B as best he can for 550 PAs I would hum The Man from Snowy River from a flagpole. If Valbuena hit the exact numbers he hit
    last season and played the same defense at 3B I would watch Mary Poppins again and not get sick.
    Hit the dang ball guys! I know you can catch and run and throw. Put Lowrie and Castro and Rasmus around those guys with career averages and numbers and I’m so happy I climb a telephone pole backwards, splinters and all.
    Now, throw in Altuve and Springer
    Score a bunch of runs guys! Bombs Away!
    What 1oldpro meant to say: More Coconut Rum!

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    • Dan P
      February 25, 2015

      I’m enjoying this old pro

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    • BrianT
      February 25, 2015

      You can never have enough rum, no matter the flavor.

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    • Dan P
      February 26, 2015

      I’m betting daveb would be sipping that rum on the beach he sits on so often down where he lives…..

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  8. Dan P
    February 25, 2015

    The real quote that made me laugh was the Jed Lowrie one. It just seemed like he was saying anything that came to his head seeing if they would print it.

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  9. Becky
    February 25, 2015

    If Bo Porter was still the manager……Lowrie would be on another team!
    Did you guys see where Josh Hamilton is meeting with the MLB about a
    pretty big problem……bigger than PED’s. That guy is a walking talking liability….
    I know he can hit some bombs, but when a player has to have a “handler” 24hrs. a day, just so he won’t get drunk, or do drugs……..he ain’t worth it.

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    • Becky
      February 25, 2015

      *cocaine*

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      • Dan P
        February 25, 2015

        That is big time bad Becky – and could be life threatening

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    • Dan P
      February 25, 2015

      Bo don’t know – I guess – about Jed.
      I hate to.hear that about Hamilton – he had made such a big comeback from his demons to make it big. Always hard when tyhose guys backslide.

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      • rj
        February 25, 2015

        yeah i remember the show he put on one year at the all star game homerun derby. really too bad if true.

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      • Dan P
        February 26, 2015

        Absolutely rj, these type of talented people falling by the wayside is always a waste and a shame.

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  10. Kevin
    February 26, 2015

    Being sober now for 15 years , addictions are both powerful and devastating,. I hope Josh figures it out, not for his baseball career but for his lovely wife and 4 daughters.

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    • Devin_
      February 26, 2015

      I agree and believe this is exactly what we should be saying about his struggles. FWIW, I hope Manfred, MLB, and the MLBPA work on ways to help Hamilton and any other player with substance abuse problems.

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    • Dan P
      February 26, 2015

      Amen, Kevin – the human and family part of this dwarfs the unimportance of the sports side of this.

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  11. rj
    February 26, 2015

    what he said – springers new do is pretty stupid looking, but he’s a good kid.
    what he meant – if singleton had come to camp with a do like that he’d be run out of town

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    • Dan P
      February 26, 2015

      Well, it is like with your children – certain ones have earned some “hands off” equity while others have earned a very short leash…..

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  12. Steven
    February 26, 2015

    What Lowrie REALLY meant – “Yea, standing is how I prepare for my 95 game season. What? You said there are 162 games? Really? How would I know?”

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    • Dan P
      February 26, 2015

      Haha – great one Steven – perfect quasi-quote.

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  13. Dan P
    February 26, 2015

    From my friend Betsy in Alabama –

    Hinch: “And if all of the above fails, Gattis and Jadeveon Clowney can rehab together.”

    BTW – the getting in shape by “standing alone” is one of the best quotes ever.

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